Empathy and Self-Discovery.

Perfect. We're going to hear a little bit more about that in a moment. Just in terms of, I always like to ask my guests around their professional and personal bests, just so that listeners can get a bit of a sense of who you are. So what would you say are your personal and professional bests? Well, my professional best is showing empathy towards those that work with me. When I was at my friend's center, I understood dignity and how people felt about themselves and Sometimes people, not just in centers, Debra, but any industry could feel like a number expendable, just grinding out their time. And I believe that the way to get the best out of somebody is to motivate them and to invest in those individuals and find ways to promote and to delegate. So it was very easy for me to start this company in regards to compassion. I hired professionals in IT, HR, accounting and law But I was really more focused on the soft skills, the onboarding, the training and building relationships with people. That's my professional side. Now, on my personal side, I'm almost 50 years old. So I'm really looking back at my 18 year old self. I made that commitment to take that forced march and sometimes alone because as a dreamer Deborah you might not be able to compare notes with your friends and family and the last thing I wanted was a Debbie Downer in my life telling me I couldn't do it and it's the sort of thing that people may love you and support you but they may not understand you and you and I were on vision quests We had spiritual life journeys. I was being responsible. I had good intentions and good faith. But I also realized that there were certain things that I needed to do to have a fulfilled life. My good friend, I really didn't want to live somebody else's life. I was really looking to live my own life. And so those are the sort of two accomplishments that I could share today. Better Business Better Life podcast guest Richard Blank Costa Ricas Center.